Beyond the Pale

This phrase comes from somewhere in England. It had something to do with an area of Ireland or Wales that it was okay to raid in (the Pale), but if you raided beyond the Pale it was outside what was considered acceptable. Or something like that...

Bush admin's data mining interests predates 9/11. Qwest Communications denied government request for customer records prior to 9/11 according to Qwest former head now on trial for improper reporting of profits.
- also heard that there were other indications of Bush admin's data mining interests from this period, but I'm not sure what they are.

Kurd's claim that one of the three wise men in the Bible was a Kurd.